Honestly, watching this conversation between Hale and Anne Lamott, was somewhat confusing to me on what to pay attention about. As I did start the time frame: 11:23 to 27:27 minutes. I understand that she is a Christian writer and that she loves books about good and evil. She also focuses on "struggles of imperfect characters". Lamott mentions that a person should have good self-esteem within themselves. That it is "wonderful to be helpful". Which in fact I agree, it is "wonderful to be helpful". What I did catch in the interview was that, they talked about the types of drafts. She says that the (Down draft) is the first draft, where you just get it all down. The (Up draft) is the second draft that cleans it all up. Which leads to the (dental
