When the matter of hunger becomes a priority to some of the group they resort to the fundamentals of providing food for the group at the expense of the signal fire going out. This in return causes a division within the boys. The argument arises that the group “has got to have rules and they’ve got to obey them they aren’t savages” (Golding,pg. 47). The group decides on an individual level what leader they wish to stand with. This separation continues as they see Jack gaining more power over Ralph. Jack displays his savage side and he expects more respect from the group. “From Jack and the hunters paint their faces, they stole up a pig. Now the whole group can eat” (Golding,pg. 81). The Loyalties to each leader are starting to show the group who choses savagery versus civilized thinking.
With the division of the group many wonder if over time if they continue a civilized lifestyle or will they all become savage. The civilized group try to convince the savages to see the truth and benefits in civilization. One strategy that the civilized group is trying to explain to the others is about making choices. They discuss “which is better to have rules and agree or to hunt and kill”(Golding, pg 199). Jack and the others are still set on ways of being savage. To the few of the civilized boys Jack makes them question if “the world, that understandable and lawful world was slipping away” (Golding, pg 99) from them. The boys show that the civilized ones are constantly trying to redeem the savages back to civilized thinking. Many boys on both sides wonder what makes them a savage, and the civilized group wonder if there is any going back for the savages. As far as civilization is concerned once there are no rules and